[Alan0354]

I know this is not really of interest here. I use my cane for self defense. For the longest time I use the fiber filled nylon cane. But lately, I experimented with Hickory cane:
Crook Cane - Hickory

I bought 3, It's about 17.5oz after cutting to 33" long. It is HARD, I can feel it when I hit my calf with it that it hit harder than the nylon cane. So far, it seems it can hold up. So just in case someone need one like this, something to look at.

 

[valky307]

My preference is making walking sticks. They are longer than canes and shorter than hiking sticks. I reference them as to walking support. I've had to use them more than once to deter an aggressive dog! The wife and I walk every day no matter the weather but I don't leave the house without my walking stick for defense if ever needed.

 

[Alan0354]

My preference is making walking sticks. They are longer than canes and shorter than hiking sticks. I reference them as to walking support. I've had to use them more than once to deter an aggressive dog! The wife and I walk every day no matter the weather but I don't leave the house without my walking stick for defense if ever needed.

Depends on situation, if you are in open space, longer stick has better reach. BUT, if you are walking on streets with more people, in restaurant etc., longer stick can be liability. You cannot swing wide, you'll hit things not intended and you might lose your stick. The longer the stick, the harder it is for close quarter.

Also just as important. One need to practice hitting things, don't just carry it out. Don't think the stick is not that heavy, when swinging, it's a completely different thing. I am not that weak even compare to younger people. I do weight training, I still bicep curl with 40lbs dumbbell, 25 pushup wearing a 75lbs weight jacket with feet 2ft up on a chair. 18oz cain can get slow even swinging with two hands. So practice swinging and hitting something to make sure you can swing it easily and repeating hitting. Nothing is worst if the other person grab the stick and use it against you.

I practice almost 2 years since the news was talking about older Asians were being attacked on the street unprovoked during Covid.

JMHO

 

[valky307]

Chances are in my rural town you'd most likely be attacked by a loose dog rather than a person. I haven't swung my stick at any dogs, just use it to keep them at bay.
One other thing. In Kansas we have open carry of firearms so anyone set out to assault us would soon back off.

 

[Alan0354]

That works, I have a lot of guns, just using in Kalif, endless troubles will follow after shooting.

Living in rural area is very different from in cities, you don't have space confinement. Still be aware, swinging a stick is not like hitting baseball or golf. Those you put all the power in one single swing. You can see when they swing and miss the baseball, they usually lose their balance and has to take a step. Works for baseball, it's no no for self defense. You need to recover fast and ready to swing again. For one swing, even like a 4lbs stick is ok. It's the recovery and not losing balance that really limit the weight and length of the stick.

Anyway, that's really off the topic in this forum.

 

[Kelly]

If you have a table saw, and if you join wood to make sticks, you can split a piece of wood, do a plough cut down the center and the length of it, insert 3/8" allthread, then glue it back together. A nut and washer on each end would go a long ways to adding strength to the final product.

I have literal trunk load of new corks and, on a whim, made a cane with a few of them. Needless to say, I wouldn't trust it for anything more than decoration, absent reinforcement. I used allthread to bump that up, so now it's a less not trustworthy decoration.

This is the best I can do for an example photo for now.

 

[dangerranger]

Hickory and Ash both make good axe handles and also make good canes that don't break.
I got a good Ash cane at Tractor supply. They are made for herding cattle in feed lots. So they are plenty long.
I have swung these canes at a heavy bag without breaking. So you might look into these. DR

 

[Alan0354]

Hickory and Ash both make good axe handles and also make good canes that don't break.
I got a good Ash cane at Tractor supply. They are made for herding cattle in feed lots. So they are plenty long.
I have swung these canes at a heavy bag without breaking. So you might look into these. DR

I have the hickory crook cane, I hit the bag for a few minutes on each. I don't dare to do it too long afraid I over stress them. Just to test to verify it can stand up to it.

So between Hickory and Ash, which one is better? Any other choices?

Thanks

 

[Lil Weebs]

To make a self defense cane. I want to attach a v shaped blade to my Blackthorn Shillelagh. Any ideas on the best way to go about it? I was thinking about a blade which is at least six inches in length with some sort of easily removed tube like structure to cover shaft of cane and blade. Anybody have any thoughts? I prefer not to carry a pistol but want something which will persuade and attacker to leave me be.

 

[Alan0354]

To make a self defense cane. I want to attach a v shaped blade to my Blackthorn Shillelagh. Any ideas on the best way to go about it? I was thinking about a blade which is at least six inches in length with some sort of easily removed tube like structure to cover shaft of cane and blade. Anybody have any thoughts? I prefer not to carry a pistol but want something which will persuade and attacker to leave me be.

Make sure to check with local law, this might not be legal. Be careful.

 

[Lil Weebs]

Make sure to check with local law, this might not be legal. Be careful.

Lawful in Indiana

 

[Alan0354]

Lawful in Indiana

There's a lot on the market that looks nice and good construction. It's getting a little complicate to make one that is reliable.

 

[Alan0354]

Lawful in Indiana

Here is just one place, many others,
Sword Canes

 

[Lil Weebs]

Here is just one place, many others,
Sword Canes

I am not so much looking for a sword cane as a short handled spear with a serious pommel on the end. Something just under 3 feet that has 2 business ends and is clearly visible as dangerous in order to give assailant the chance to see what he is dealing with and be persuaded to refrain. Something that is used with both hands to either thrust or pummel depending on the threat while being useful,as a walking cane. It is not soemthing I will need to survive more than on assault as I will be able to make a new on fairly easily and affordably.

 

[Alan0354]

I am not so much looking for a sword cane as a short handled spear with a serious pommel on the end. Something just under 3 feet that has 2 business ends and is clearly visible as dangerous in order to give assailant the chance to see what he is dealing with and be persuaded to refrain. Something that is used with both hands to either thrust or pummel depending on the threat while being useful,as a walking cane. It is not soemthing I will need to survive more than on assault as I will be able to make a new on fairly easily and affordably.

I don't think there is any easy way to make one. You have to find a blade, then attach onto the Blackthorn Shillelagh. Then the difficult thing is to make a tube to go over the blade and still make it decent looking matching the Blackthorn Shillelagh. You have to have tools and skill beyond carpentry.

Is your Blackthorn Shillelagh like Cold Steel polypropylene type? It will be hard to make a tube the fit good and match.

If I were you, I'd buy a cane sword and be done with it. They should be done right and last a long time. I don't think you save money making one.

Unless you are willing to make it very sloppy, just attach a fixed blade knife with sheath to the end of the stick, then just put the sheath over the blade. Then you can literally use duck tap to tie the knife onto the stick.

Do yourself a favor, spend the money and buy a cane sword.

 

[Kelly]

I haven't gotten to it yet, but I plan on building something akin to this. It would be a walking stick. The bottom, covering the spearhead, would be held in place by rare earth magnets.

A bump out would allow me to pull the cover off with my foot or by hand. Merely swinging it hard shouldn't allow it to let go.

To make the cover, I'd spit a piece of wood, the router the inside for a close tolerance, then join them back together, like I did this handle.

I am not so much looking for a sword cane as a short handled spear with a serious pommel on the end. Something just under 3 feet that has 2 business ends and is clearly visible as dangerous in order to give assailant the chance to see what he is dealing with and be persuaded to refrain. Something that is used with both hands to either thrust or pummel depending on the threat while being useful,as a walking cane. It is not soemthing I will need to survive more than on assault as I will be able to make a new on fairly easily and affordably.

 

[Alan0354]

I am not so much looking for a sword cane as a short handled spear with a serious pommel on the end. Something just under 3 feet that has 2 business ends and is clearly visible as dangerous in order to give assailant the chance to see what he is dealing with and be persuaded to refrain. Something that is used with both hands to either thrust or pummel depending on the threat while being useful,as a walking cane. It is not soemthing I will need to survive more than on assault as I will be able to make a new on fairly easily and affordably.

I am actually thinking about this. Look into BAYONET. They are meant to attach to riffles with the ring. They might have cover for the blade. You just look to see whether the mounting hardware can fit on the tip of Blackthorn Shillelagh. That would be the cleanest and secure way to attach a blade.

Just a thought.

 

[Lil Weebs]

I don't think there is any easy way to make one. You have to find a blade, then attach onto the Blackthorn Shillelagh. Then the difficult thing is to make a tube to go over the blade and still make it decent looking matching the Blackthorn Shillelagh. You have to have tools and skill beyond carpentry.

Is your Blackthorn Shillelagh like Cold Steel polypropylene type? It will be hard to make a tube the fit good and match.

If I were you, I'd buy a cane sword and be done with it. They should be done right and last a long time. I don't think you save money making one.

Unless you are willing to make it very sloppy, just attach a fixed blade knife with sheath to the end of the stick, then just put the sheath over the blade. Then you can literally use duck tap to tie the knife onto the stick.

Do yourself a favor, spend the money and buy a cane sword.

I have no training with a sword and they do not provide the versitility of a double ended weapon such as I am making. It does not need to last a lifetime. I have figured it out and will post pics when complete.

 

[Alan0354]

I have no training with a sword and they do not provide the versitility of a double ended weapon such as I am making. It does not need to last a lifetime. I have figured it out and will post pics when complete.

Ha ha, the Blackthorn Shillelagh to me is very scary looking already. Those spikes can really hurt hitting people. I used to carry this, but I cut off the sharp hook to make it look innocent.
United Cutlery 39" Adjustable Walking Black Molded Nylon Shaft Cane 3129 760729312968 | eBay

Good luck

 

[Tom from AR]

Stick with blade. Using a strong wood about 1" thick. Attach A bayonet mount, available from several sources. If needed you can mount an M7 style fairly quickly.