Ok....so my sister grabbed me a few Osage Orange fruits full of seeds and I intend to start a bunch and plant "somewhere" for future harvest. I also have some Blackthorn seeds in the mail which I will do the same with......probably two plants or so of each (depending on male/female requirements) here at home. The rest will get planted in the wild or along roadways free from stickers like you/us...lol. But, being the age where deciding if I can get away with a 30 year roof or should i pay for a 40 year roof causes angst, I'm curious how long it will take to get some harvests out of these species. Anyone ever do or consider doing this? Anyone rig up forming blocks for cane-style handles on growing samplings or branches? I've watched branches on hollies form around other branches even grow into each other to form one....Ive seen trees formed in wierd ways also....sounds like fun...long term anyway.....anyone?