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Hi JJIREH

Was interested in your comments regarding sticks and why people have them .you thought that they where just for utility use , I think for a start they are, but as people use them regular they wish to define there character or there personnel interest in things.This is why there is such a wide range of designs and ideas regarding there use and looks.

Most of the people who make there own do it for interest and take pride in there work and once the interest develops strat making others before you know it you have far more then you need.

I dont think there is a ideal stick just different ideas on it , for me theye have to be the right height and have the right design carved on it,it needs to be strong, light and look the part.

I am always looking at design and what i can use as a design and probably spend as much time researching designs as making them.

I was in the moutians just outside Nice (france) recently and came across a shop selling them ,most of which where carved toppers of local animals such as the moutain goat and the marmite .interesting all the same.

A nice commercial outlet for local people i think but also some where carved in a moderen art style a stim Terrestrial animal Tail Reptile Wood Pipe
ulating design always stirs my interest and always makes me look further into ideas.

I am wondering why the thumb stick isnt so popular in the US? the bone carved thumb stick is popular in the Uk

It would be interesting to hear views on this from this site whether from a carver or some one who just uses them.

this dam keyboard keys are still sticking i will have to change it

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sorry rad its not bone but horn my mistake.there is a lot of buffalo horn around just need steam to manipulate it , its quite a skill, not something you can learn overnight

Most of them i have seen are deer or buffalo i prefer the buffalo ones there are rams horn and cow horn al of which you need the same tools to work
 

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YOU can buy a buffalo thumd piecs of ebay in england they are pretty cheap there advertised at the moment at 7.5 £ to 110£ i think not dure of the exchange rate sorry think its the same as the eruo about 1.2 to the pound. what the postage cost would be dont know, but should be resonable by a courier.This is provding of course that you could import them?,

I would have thought so could be a good market over there for them
 

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just a sample of a buffalo horn thumb stick its been drilled in the centre to insert steel rod to attach to shank.The shank in the pic is ash but i will fit it to chestnut as it the bark has such a rich colour. use expoy resin glue or putty to fix it to shaft. I think this buffalo horn came from india

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Well rad dont agree with you about horn being flimsy .It is not flimsy in any way if treated corectly .yes if you take all natural material out the centre it is thin like glass,but its not the way to work horn.

I also make thumb sticks with mahogany an rosewood,but still think horn makes the best one.

As for people not paying for quality i find thats not true,like single malt whisky if you buy a cheap , one not so clever, but try over15years and the differance is amazing.

Dont think it is a culture thing as you say,think that americans are very responsive to most things, the americans i have come across have always been very friendly polite and look into things before responding and would consider alternatives if offered to them.,But you would have to look into the market there i do know that a lot of americans go wild fowl hunting so things like ducks and drake head toppers would probaly go down well along with wading sticks.

But i do like the dog and the origInal checker work on the shank gives individuality and that with quality will sell

the size of thumb sticks oftern are slightly smaller normally they are the size from floor to the min .hieght you hve your arm held at 90 degreesand the armpit

You could pick up a buffalo thumb topper for 10$ so price shouldnt be a issue and once there polished set against a white boner spacer on a chestnut shank with the bark left on look good

All the same good to have reponse in any discussion

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yes rad your right sorry

but jjireh has a piont about 90% of the population

I do think tho it depends where you sell then , yours would go down well with those who like dogs ,certain breeds are more popular and walking, Some of mine are somewhat of beat but it pays dividens as they rember me and ask me to design and make certain carvings which you would get a premium price for..but i would have to be interested in doing it .its not the money

mostly i carve just for the hell of it, but people are interested in such items, depends what you want to get out of making them, for me mainly its pleasure like you .

I am not sure where you come from but there are many more people who hunt in the USA which should open up a bigger market so many more hiker sand such a vast coutry , but the climate money wise is a lot more difficult now.

If i dont fancy doing what i have been asked for i wont do it, i dont earn a living from it.

However a stickmaker i know has a 6 mnth waiting list on his books so it can be done average price he asks is about 220$ but the he sells stick accessories etc and does get aliving from it

so im lucky i dont treat it like work , i like to what i want when i want , my full time working is over

its like the puppets i carve it just started by my grandaughter asking me to take her to a punch and judy show couldnt find one locally so made the full set up along with a performace for her. Got a pucn and judy booth on my hands! , BUTnow.i have made loads of them for other people its word and mouth. the main thing is getting something out of it usually satisfaction.

A good stick well carved fetch 180-200+$ here.

If you sell on ebay lucky to get 60$ so its not easy to establish yourself if its a living

so enjoy what you doing but do try other ides as well

enjoyed that, good discussion i think its the best way of developing your own ideas on where to go with it next

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JJIREH

the use of water colour is interesting does it bleed when you seal it ? I have used perminant inks never tried water colour

you just use it to enrich the colour?

so how did you seal it by spray varnish? dosnt the varnish pick up the colour?
 
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